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August 22, 2011

I got this question on a panel a few weeks ago:

“I heard that company X raised money from several good VC’s.  How is that possible given that the company isn’t making any money and doesn’t have any business model?”

I know that there are investors out there that question this behavior too.  Why would you put money into services like Instagram, Tumblr, or others before any real business model is in place?

Start-up boards face this decision too.  When do you focus on growth, users, or product quality and when do you think about testing revenue models?

The answer is that investors do generally care about business models.  I know that I do.  But, the reality is that there aren’t that many different business models in the internet.  My partner Lee often talks about there being only 3 revenue models on the internet (and he has a more lengthy blog post on the topic here).  I’m modifying his categories a bit into these:

1. Media Models (primarily monetized through advertising)

2. Transaction Models (including e-commerce but also lead-generation)

3. Premium, User-Paid services

When I met with an entrepreneur, I want to get a sense for how she is thinking about the different revenue generation options.  And based on those options, I think about 2 things:

1. Does this entrepreneur understand what it takes to “win” with this sort of revenue model?  Does he understand the business implications of a given path?  Stuff like building a sales force, building a customer support organization, etc.

2. How innovative is this entrepreneur in thinking of ways to optimize a given revenue model.  For example, while “advertising” is a catch-all, we are seeing with Twitter the need and promise of innovative product leaders figuring out new and natural ways to advertise within the context of what Twitter has built. Slapping display ads on the side won’t cut it.

But let’s go back to the original question. Here is the typical reason why VC’s sometimes need to see very little in terms of a business model to get excited about a company.  When presented with a particular company, the VC (explicitly or implicitly) asks himself

“Ok, which of the three revenue models is this type of company likely to pursue”?

“Based on the revenue model, how much is each user likely to be worth?”

For many media models (and even some of the premium services models) the answer is each user is probably worth very little.  Or, a few users are going to be worth a lot, but the vast majority will be worth nothing.

If this is the answer, then it will never be profitable to try to “buy” users with the hope of converting them to paid users profitably.  The only way to make this business work is to get massive scale as organically as possible.

Down the road, the equation may change and the company will need to be more deliberate about refining their business model.  But initially, many of these companies have to get to first base.  And first base is getting lots of users.  Actually, that’s probably first and second base.

I’m not saying that user traction is a sure path to victory!  I am a firm believer that every company should seek to build real, sustainable, and potentially independent businesses.  But, if you are going after a market where you are monetizing users at a modest rate, refining business models is a distant priority relative to getting lots and lots of delighted users heavily engaged with your service (and hopefully doing so pretty capital efficiently).

 

 

  • http://gravatar.com/healyjones Healy Jones

    Rob, I think this is one reason VCs make these kinds of investments. But I think layering on the idea of “how big of a disruption is possible in the target industry” is another important factor; sometimes more important than the revenue model. If it’s a big industry with fat + happy old school competitors with big margins then any disruption that gets traction is potentially valuable. Of course, this sort of thinking doesn’t help at all when looking at a totally novel concept (kind of like Twitter; what the heck was it when it started anyway?) But for a concept pointed at a fat target industry then the revenue model may be less important at the time of initial funding than the amount of disruption that will be possible.

  • http://www.robgo.org robchogo

    That’s true, if the market is big enough. Often, there is some version of the following math: Ok, the industry is XB, but this model is going to disrupt the market and shrink it by 80%. The resulting 20% industry size still better be big enough and exciting enough to move the needle in a big fund. IF that’s the case, then the investor can say “well, i don’t care too much about the revenue model, because it’s exciting even if this company can monetize at 1/5 the rate of current competitors.

  • http://www.growthroute.com Greg

    Good post. I’m often trying to explain that to people who swear that a startup should be making money on day 1 or so…

    I think there is another business model out there, although it’s not really one that many startup founders will openly present in their pitch due to the higher risk involved: building your company to complete a key function for a future acquirer. The monetization of the company thus comes later, even after the acquisition. The acquirer has the means to monetize the product / technology.

    For example, Google acquired a number of companies such as Canadian startups Postrank and Bumptop for their development team, patents and general IP, even though those startups had not found a profitale business model yet.

    • point0

      I usually am not a fan of this approach personally because the appetite for acquirers is hard to predict many months or years in advance. I do believe in trying to build sustainable, long term businesses as the primary goal.

      Sent from my iPhone

      • http://www.growthroute.com Greg

        Pointo I think a lot of entrepreneurs would agree with you, however from a purely monetary perspective, the “build-to-sell” (or “build-to-complement-an-acquirer” to be more precise) approach is valid, and neglecting it from a purely philosophical reason is not astute – it narrows down options. Dismissing it as a higher risk option, as you imply, might be a good reason, however I am not entirely certain that businesses built to be profitable on their own statistically fare much better.

        IMHO, building to sell is simply a higher-risk / higher-reward game, which not everyone is suited to. There is an assumption from some that only businesses that can stand on their own financial foot are legit – that’s shortsighted and restrictive, a business may very well better fulfill its goal as a part in a larger machine too.

  • http://twitter.com/Ricardo_Lousada Ricardo Lousada (@Ricardo_Lousada)

    God point Rob…I’m pretty sure that investors already have in mind what kind of revenue model can be applied in latter stages. Business models are indeed the heart of business and I honestly think that sometimes entrepreneurs forget about the basis… add value and be able to make money out of it. I still remember the .dot bubble burst back in 2001 and hope that some “crazy” company valuations don’t make it happen again…Do you believe for instance that tumbrle can be valuated at 800 M?

    • point0

      $800M is a very healthy valuation. But that seems to be the name of the game these days. Many people thought the same thing about Greylock’s investment in Facebook.

  • http://twitter.com/SportsFanMe SportsFan.me (@SportsFanMe)

    I just spoke last week to a VC about our new startup SportsFan.me and when he asked me about our business model I told him that for the next 12 months we don’t have a business model and we are just focusing on usability and traction. Now obviously we have several different ways to earn revenue, but it is just not our focus right now. And yes they want to meet us.

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